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            <title>Hat Ethics - Learn How To Make Hats Online | Hat Academy Millinery Courses</title>
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                    <title>Of course!  I&#039;d consider your…</title>
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                                        <id>tag:hatacademy.com,2012-08-28:6485913:Comment:17367</id>
                                        <updated>2012-08-28T14:24:48.407Z</updated>
                    
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                            <name>Cynthia G Peacock</name>
                            <uri>https://hatacademy.com/profile/CynthiaGPeacock</uri>
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                        &lt;p&gt;Of course!  I&#039;d consider your creating an SOI box an honor!  I want to make a hat that looks like it&#039;s moving, even when it&#039;s standing still.  &lt;/p&gt;                    </summary>

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                            &lt;p&gt;Of course!  I&#039;d consider your creating an SOI box an honor!  I want to make a hat that looks like it&#039;s moving, even when it&#039;s standing still.  &lt;/p&gt;                        </content>
                    
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                    <title>Cynthia, I love your &#039;stigmat…</title>
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                                        <id>tag:hatacademy.com,2012-08-27:6485913:Comment:17346</id>
                                        <updated>2012-08-27T22:10:28.370Z</updated>
                    
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                            <name>1fi9iq6yxs6ig</name>
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                        &lt;p&gt;Cynthia, I love your &#039;stigmata of ignorance&#039; comment!!  do you mind if I copy that?  I&#039;m thinking of a big box with &#039;S.O.I. HATS&#039; on the front - where I can keep them all :)    I don&#039;t want to look at them now, but one day, when I&#039;m brilliantly clever, I shall pull them out and re-work them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m waiting for the day when I can create with my hands, the exact picture that&#039;s in my mind and have it perfect.  That&#039;s my WOW hat.   But I guess that&#039;s the same for everyone at every level of…&lt;/p&gt;                    </summary>

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                            &lt;p&gt;Cynthia, I love your &#039;stigmata of ignorance&#039; comment!!  do you mind if I copy that?  I&#039;m thinking of a big box with &#039;S.O.I. HATS&#039; on the front - where I can keep them all :)    I don&#039;t want to look at them now, but one day, when I&#039;m brilliantly clever, I shall pull them out and re-work them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m waiting for the day when I can create with my hands, the exact picture that&#039;s in my mind and have it perfect.  That&#039;s my WOW hat.   But I guess that&#039;s the same for everyone at every level of skill too.&lt;/p&gt;
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                    <title>Well most of my samples/copie…</title>
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                                        <updated>2012-08-27T16:03:25.256Z</updated>
                    
                                            <author>
                            <name>Cynthia G Peacock</name>
                            <uri>https://hatacademy.com/profile/CynthiaGPeacock</uri>
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                        &lt;p&gt;Well most of my samples/copies have the stigmata of my ignorance stamped on them, so they wouldn&#039;t see the light of day anyway.  :)  There was a time that I thought that marking the front and back of the hat was an unnecessary step.  I thought I could just &quot;eyeball&quot; the center back and front.  Of course every book I read said to mark the hat, and I thought I knew better since I eyeball center front and back when I sew garments.  So, all my early work includes binding that is about 3/4 inch…&lt;/p&gt;                    </summary>

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                            &lt;p&gt;Well most of my samples/copies have the stigmata of my ignorance stamped on them, so they wouldn&#039;t see the light of day anyway.  :)  There was a time that I thought that marking the front and back of the hat was an unnecessary step.  I thought I could just &quot;eyeball&quot; the center back and front.  Of course every book I read said to mark the hat, and I thought I knew better since I eyeball center front and back when I sew garments.  So, all my early work includes binding that is about 3/4 inch off.  I didn&#039;t notice it at the time, but now it really bugs me.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And yes!  It is amazing how much time you can find for hats.  I need a large chunk of time to block a hat because I have to drag all the equipment and supplies out (I don&#039;t have a dedicated hat making space).  But I can work on trimming 30 minutes at a time, etc.  I think about it a lot also.  My kids like Hat Making Mom because I&#039;ve lost interest in micromanaging their lives.  :)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know I&#039;m entering a creative phase because I&#039;m temperamental--tearing things out, and throwing things away.  :) &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hats that I have made that folks have worn outside my house have been boaters for the &quot;Music Man&quot; and saucers to match bridesmaids dresses and hats that go with frog costumes -- nothing with any special design.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am yet to make a WOW hat.  I want to make a hat that never before existed.  I guess everybody wants to do that, huh?&lt;/p&gt;                        </content>
                    
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                    <title>I agree with Aoife.  There ar…</title>
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                                        <updated>2012-08-27T10:27:24.847Z</updated>
                    
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                            <name>1fi9iq6yxs6ig</name>
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                        &lt;p&gt;I agree with Aoife.  There are copyright laws which prevent people using someone else&#039;s design and presenting it as their own.  I&#039;m not sure that this applies in the millinery world, but I believe there is a strong ethical and moral imperative not to copy another&#039;s work.  Millinery is a combination of art, self-expression of the milliner and, in many cases, the imagination and wishes of their client. Copying is very much frowned upon in the art world, so I think the same rules apply…&lt;/p&gt;                    </summary>

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                            &lt;p&gt;I agree with Aoife.  There are copyright laws which prevent people using someone else&#039;s design and presenting it as their own.  I&#039;m not sure that this applies in the millinery world, but I believe there is a strong ethical and moral imperative not to copy another&#039;s work.  Millinery is a combination of art, self-expression of the milliner and, in many cases, the imagination and wishes of their client. Copying is very much frowned upon in the art world, so I think the same rules apply here. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree with Aoife, that to use a technique or practice is fine, but that the result never sees the light of day. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The fine line, I think, is between inspiration and duplication. &lt;/p&gt;
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                    <title>I agree 100% with Aoife. I am…</title>
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                                        <updated>2012-08-27T04:17:20.861Z</updated>
                    
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                            <name>Vivienne Morgan Millinery</name>
                            <uri>https://hatacademy.com/profile/VivienneMorganMillinery</uri>
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                        &lt;p&gt;I agree 100% with Aoife. I am doing my millinery part-time and its amazing how much time you can find to do it (rather than watching TV in the evening for example!). Good luck!&lt;/p&gt;                    </summary>

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                            &lt;p&gt;I agree 100% with Aoife. I am doing my millinery part-time and its amazing how much time you can find to do it (rather than watching TV in the evening for example!). Good luck!&lt;/p&gt;                        </content>
                    
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                    <title>Thanks for your opinion, Aoif…</title>
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                                        <id>tag:hatacademy.com,2012-08-26:6485913:Comment:16963</id>
                                        <updated>2012-08-26T18:49:06.540Z</updated>
                    
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                            <name>Cynthia G Peacock</name>
                            <uri>https://hatacademy.com/profile/CynthiaGPeacock</uri>
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                        &lt;p&gt;Thanks for your opinion, Aoife.  I agree. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think sometimes people think about hats the same way we think about hairstyles.  If you show a hairstylist a picture of a haircut, the aim is to copy that hairstyle as precisely as possible.  No one considers a hairstyle as intellectual property. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But a hat is more than a hairstyle.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I recently had told a friend of mine I wouldn&#039;t copy a hat.  It was a very unique bespoken hat.  It was very obviously something that two people…&lt;/p&gt;                    </summary>

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                            &lt;p&gt;Thanks for your opinion, Aoife.  I agree. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think sometimes people think about hats the same way we think about hairstyles.  If you show a hairstylist a picture of a haircut, the aim is to copy that hairstyle as precisely as possible.  No one considers a hairstyle as intellectual property. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But a hat is more than a hairstyle.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I recently had told a friend of mine I wouldn&#039;t copy a hat.  It was a very unique bespoken hat.  It was very obviously something that two people could not have come up with simultaneously.  It just didn&#039;t seem like the right thing to do.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I never ever thought I could make a living making hats.  I still have my day job! :)  Now I&#039;m thinking it&#039;s something that I might just be able to do on a part-time basis.  It is true that you find the time to do something you love to do.  I just want to make sure that if I actually accept money for what I do that I&#039;m acting in an ethical manner. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I work in healthcare, and there are all sorts of codified ethical guidelines.  It seems that millinery doesn&#039;t have all that (unless it is something I&#039;m unfamiliar with) -- probably because it is an art that cannot be codified.  &lt;/p&gt;
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                    <title>I don&#039;t agree with copying a…</title>
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                                        <updated>2012-08-26T17:06:09.178Z</updated>
                    
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                            <name>Aoife Kirwan</name>
                            <uri>https://hatacademy.com/profile/AoifeKirwan</uri>
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                        &lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t agree with copying a design of any other milliner and then selling it. It&#039;s fine to try make it yourself just to see if you could do it or to practice a technique but never to show or sell. If someone came to me and asked me to copy another milliners hat I would refuse. Maybe you could take inspiration from a design like a colour or shape but try to put your own spin on it.&lt;/p&gt;                    </summary>

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                            &lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t agree with copying a design of any other milliner and then selling it. It&#039;s fine to try make it yourself just to see if you could do it or to practice a technique but never to show or sell. If someone came to me and asked me to copy another milliners hat I would refuse. Maybe you could take inspiration from a design like a colour or shape but try to put your own spin on it.&lt;/p&gt;                        </content>
                    
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