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            <title>A fabric that is new to me... - Learn How To Make Hats Online | Hat Academy Millinery Courses</title>
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                    <title>Hi Gaylene. Quick question on…</title>
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                                        <updated>2018-10-22T10:57:29.174Z</updated>
                    
                                            <author>
                            <name>Trish Beddoes</name>
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                        &lt;p&gt;Hi Gaylene. Quick question on the silk abaca if you dont mind.... have you found it pleats and stays to shape on its own or still best used with buckram?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regards Trish&lt;/p&gt;                    </summary>

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                            &lt;p&gt;Hi Gaylene. Quick question on the silk abaca if you dont mind.... have you found it pleats and stays to shape on its own or still best used with buckram?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regards Trish&lt;/p&gt;                        </content>
                    
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                    <title>Thanks for all the info, ladi…</title>
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                                        <updated>2012-09-19T19:45:21.724Z</updated>
                    
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                            <name>Cynthia G Peacock</name>
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                        &lt;p&gt;Thanks for all the info, ladies!  &lt;/p&gt;                    </summary>

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                            &lt;p&gt;Thanks for all the info, ladies!  &lt;/p&gt;                        </content>
                    
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                    <title>Thanks for that Gaylene - Sin…</title>
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                                        <updated>2012-09-19T09:18:57.622Z</updated>
                    
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                            <name>Elaine Mergard</name>
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                        &lt;p&gt;Thanks for that Gaylene - Sinamay &amp;amp; JinSin come from the same banana like plant. Pina fabric might be the product advertised by suppliers as Pinokpok?? Let us know if you experiment with it. The fraying of jinsin is its weakness and how it fades is a challenge. Just the lights in a display case @ Qld Museum removed colour from it which disappointed the student so much.&lt;/p&gt;                    </summary>

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                            &lt;p&gt;Thanks for that Gaylene - Sinamay &amp;amp; JinSin come from the same banana like plant. Pina fabric might be the product advertised by suppliers as Pinokpok?? Let us know if you experiment with it. The fraying of jinsin is its weakness and how it fades is a challenge. Just the lights in a display case @ Qld Museum removed colour from it which disappointed the student so much.&lt;/p&gt;                        </content>
                    
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                    <title>Hi. Silk Abaca is made from B…</title>
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                                        <updated>2012-09-19T06:52:27.423Z</updated>
                    
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                            <name>Gaylene Thomas</name>
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                        &lt;p&gt;Hi. Silk Abaca is made from Banana fibres &amp;amp; silk interwoven together. I introduced it to the milliners at Wagga earlier in the year. My claim is that it is a fabric in between Jin sin &amp;amp; paris cloth. It is finer than Jin Sin, but not as soft as Paris Cloth. It has a definite silk sheen to it &amp;amp; when dyed, does not lose the sheen. It is used alot with sculptural pieces (wondering if that is what was used in Phillip Treacy&#039;s latest collection - red piece?), however I have blocked it…&lt;/p&gt;                    </summary>

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                            &lt;p&gt;Hi. Silk Abaca is made from Banana fibres &amp;amp; silk interwoven together. I introduced it to the milliners at Wagga earlier in the year. My claim is that it is a fabric in between Jin sin &amp;amp; paris cloth. It is finer than Jin Sin, but not as soft as Paris Cloth. It has a definite silk sheen to it &amp;amp; when dyed, does not lose the sheen. It is used alot with sculptural pieces (wondering if that is what was used in Phillip Treacy&#039;s latest collection - red piece?), however I have blocked it and made flowers from it as it does not fray as easily&amp;amp; quickly as Jin Sin. I attended Lina Stein&#039;s course in Wagga where we pleated sinamay &amp;amp; then covered with fabric. I used that silk abaca &amp;amp; got beautiful results. If you would like to try some or have any other questions, please do not hesitate to contact me &amp;amp; I will try to assist. By the way, I checked out the Pina fabric &amp;amp; it looks like it is something different again.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gaylene Thomas&lt;/p&gt;                        </content>
                    
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                    <title>Up until 1995 I used parisisa…</title>
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                                        <updated>2012-09-18T21:45:19.650Z</updated>
                    
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                            <name>Elaine Mergard</name>
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                        &lt;p&gt;Up until 1995 I used parisisal  and Swiss straw but with the arrival of Sinamay I use more of that commercially as it is easy &amp;amp; quick to use and cheapest to make a profit. As I mention throughout lessons designability is all about what you add or take away from basic straw shape. Clients ask for combinations of swiss &amp;amp;  sinamay or sinamay &amp;amp; pari. Whatever I create I have one goal to make the woman feel feminine.  With new lessons for Hatinators which can be very scultptural I aim…&lt;/p&gt;                    </summary>

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                            &lt;p&gt;Up until 1995 I used parisisal  and Swiss straw but with the arrival of Sinamay I use more of that commercially as it is easy &amp;amp; quick to use and cheapest to make a profit. As I mention throughout lessons designability is all about what you add or take away from basic straw shape. Clients ask for combinations of swiss &amp;amp;  sinamay or sinamay &amp;amp; pari. Whatever I create I have one goal to make the woman feel feminine.  With new lessons for Hatinators which can be very scultptural I aim to keep that feel of femininity. At 66yrs I was told I was &quot;oldfashioned&quot; recently ...but my pieces keep selling and that is best outcome we all want.&lt;/p&gt;                        </content>
                    
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                    <title>What is your preferred straw?</title>
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                                        <updated>2012-09-18T16:20:40.159Z</updated>
                    
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                            <name>Cynthia G Peacock</name>
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                        &lt;p&gt;What is your preferred straw?&lt;/p&gt;                    </summary>

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                            &lt;p&gt;What is your preferred straw?&lt;/p&gt;                        </content>
                    
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                    <title>Did you note the red headpiec…</title>
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                                        <updated>2012-09-18T04:33:46.434Z</updated>
                    
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                            <name>Elaine Mergard</name>
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                        &lt;p&gt;Did you note the red headpiece of Phillip Treacys = jinsin. It is very architectural in its form + dramatic. &lt;/p&gt;                    </summary>

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                            &lt;p&gt;Did you note the red headpiece of Phillip Treacys = jinsin. It is very architectural in its form + dramatic. &lt;/p&gt;                        </content>
                    
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                    <title>Anything you do with JinSin c…</title>
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                                        <id>tag:hatacademy.com,2012-09-17:6485913:Comment:20644</id>
                                        <updated>2012-09-17T00:11:27.546Z</updated>
                    
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                            <name>Hat Academy</name>
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                        &lt;p&gt;Anything you do with JinSin can be created with this - basically scultpturing. There have been discussions with Milliners around the world about how jinsin fades so quickly so not sure how Silk abaca goes - will hang coloured piece in sun for few days &amp;amp; let you know.  Not cheap component so cuts profit margin and not my preferred Straw ...but saying that there are people who love it.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;                    </summary>

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                            &lt;p&gt;Anything you do with JinSin can be created with this - basically scultpturing. There have been discussions with Milliners around the world about how jinsin fades so quickly so not sure how Silk abaca goes - will hang coloured piece in sun for few days &amp;amp; let you know.  Not cheap component so cuts profit margin and not my preferred Straw ...but saying that there are people who love it.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;                        </content>
                    
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                            <entry>
                    <title>What can you do with it?  </title>
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                                        <id>tag:hatacademy.com,2012-09-16:6485913:Comment:20638</id>
                                        <updated>2012-09-16T22:35:35.286Z</updated>
                    
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                            <name>Cynthia G Peacock</name>
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                        &lt;p&gt;What can you do with it?  &lt;/p&gt;                    </summary>

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                            &lt;p&gt;What can you do with it?  &lt;/p&gt;                        </content>
                    
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                    <title>Spot on Bronwyn - it is Silk…</title>
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                                        <updated>2012-09-16T06:13:32.709Z</updated>
                    
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                            <name>Elaine Mergard</name>
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                        &lt;p&gt;Spot on Bronwyn - it is Silk Abaca that Torb &amp;amp; Reiner stock in Melbourne.&lt;/p&gt;                    </summary>

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                            &lt;p&gt;Spot on Bronwyn - it is Silk Abaca that Torb &amp;amp; Reiner stock in Melbourne.&lt;/p&gt;                        </content>
                    
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